Holton Serial Numbers Trumpet
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:43 am Post subject: Holton serial numbers Does anybody have an idea how to date a Holton MF-Horn that has a serial number closer to 900000? I could find some sites that go to 1970's but nothing more recent. Date Serial Number; 1901: 0-253: 1902: 254-475: 1903: 476-525: 1904: 526-1150: 1905: 1151-1871: 1906: 1872-3344: 1907: 3345-4629: 1908: 4630-6070: 1909: 6071-9473.
Holton Serial Numbers
| ID | 10780 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Clark 26 | |
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| Date Made | 1938 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-1938-Clarke-26.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 10779 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | 28 | |
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| Date Made | 1935 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-1935-Model-28.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 10443 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | 28 | |
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| Date Made | 1947 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-Cornet-1947-Model-28.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 10412 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | 20 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-Cornet-20.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 10388 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Clarke | |
| Serial# | 59348 | |
| Date Made | 1921 | |
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| Pitch | C/Bb/A | |
| Description | C slide installed | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-Cornet-59348.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 9991 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | 24 Resotone | |
| Serial# | 124823 | |
| Date Made | 1938 | |
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| Description | Bore: .462in | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-Cornet-Resotone-24.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 9899 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Collegiate | |
| Serial# | 9775 | |
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| Description | Interesting instrument. It says Made in USA, but no where does it name Holton. And, the serial number does not seem consistent with the Holton sequence. | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Collegiate-cornet-9775.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 7804 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Super Collegiate | |
| Serial# | 269975 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/holton-cornet=super-collegi.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 7297 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
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| Serial# | 30 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-30.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 7261 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Revelation | |
| Serial# | 47341 | |
| Date Made | 1919 | |
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| Description | Elkhart Manufacture with a Chicago bell. | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-47341.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 7260 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | New Proportion Couturier | |
| Serial# | 5597 | |
| Date Made | 1908 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-5597.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 7208 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | New Proportion Couturier | |
| Serial# | 27281 | |
| Date Made | 1914 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-Cornet-27281.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 7195 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | New Proportion FC | |
| Serial# | 23680 | |
| Date Made | 1914 | |
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| Description | Holton advertised it as in the middle between their short and long models. | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-23480.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 7174 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | New Proportion Couturier | |
| Serial# | 8369 | |
| Date Made | 1909 | |
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| Description | Couturier Model | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-8369.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 7156 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Clarke | |
| Serial# | 55063 | |
| Date Made | 1918 | |
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| Pitch | HP/LP | |
| Description | Chicago Gold plate | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-Clarke-55063.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 6959 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Clarke Model | |
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| Date Made | 1921 | |
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| Pitch | HP | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-Clarke-3.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 6949 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | New Proportion | |
| Serial# | 3062 | |
| Date Made | 1906 | |
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| Pitch | Bb/A HP/ | |
| Description | Low pitch configured | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-Cornet-3062.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 6832 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | ||
| Serial# | 289833 | |
| Date Made | 1956 | |
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| Pitch | Eb | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-Eb.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 5683 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | New Proportion | |
| Serial# | 2468 | |
| Date Made | 1906 | |
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| Description | Engraved: New Proportion |Made By | Frank Holton Co. | Chicago Biber: Note the additional tuning slide brace not generally found on the New Proportion. Post market addition? Can anyone attribute actual bore sizes to the designations 0, 0-, 0½, and 1 bores? 0, as I have been told is probably .459' Pryorphone: With my 128th' vernier caliper, using the ID of the #2 inner slide, I get: '0': 0.453' (1912 'Couturier Model/New Proportion') '0 1/2': 0.461' (1915 'Made By' (same wrap as New Proportion)) Joe440: The tuning slide brace appears to be original, judging from the plating between the brace and the slide. The water key on the main slide was replaced at some point as the base is diamond shaped, not oval as on the third valve key, and you cae the original (unplated) water key mark on the main slide. | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-2486.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 4488 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | 504-Collegiate | |
| Serial# | 239803 | |
| Date Made | 1953 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-Cornet-Collegiate.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 4241 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Clarke | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-Clarke-Cornet.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 4232 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Clarke | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-Clarle.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 4227 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-oldlou.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 3896 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Stratodyne 25 | |
| Serial# | 128067 | |
| Date Made | 1939 | |
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| Description | Images used courtesy of Randy Cole | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-128067.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 3223 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Super Collegiate | |
| Serial# | 332386 | |
| Date Made | 1960 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-Super-Coll.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 3003 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | New Proportion | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-New-Proportio.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 2827 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Collegiate | |
| Serial# | 132360 | |
| Date Made | 1939 | |
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| Pitch | Bb/A | |
| Description | Bore: 11.6mm 16-3/4in long 4-1/2in bell. This design was originally called the Holton Ideal | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-Collegiate-Cornet-13.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 1499 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Galaxy | |
| Serial# | 344828 | |
| Date Made | 1961 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-344828.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 1241 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Clarke | |
| Serial# | 51612 | |
| Date Made | 1919 | |
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| Description | bore 0.460 The Holton-Clarke cornets came in two models. Called the 'Miracle Cornet', this is the shorter shepherds crook model (see photo of a 1920 Holton catalog featuring this particular model). Cornet has a stop rod for tuning to the key of A. short model = 15 inches. the non-sheperds crook model, or long model = 16 1/2 inches. | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-Cornet-51612.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 1206 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | C603P | |
| Serial# | 934601 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-934601.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 1167 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Model 29 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-Model-29.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 979 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Couturier | |
| Serial# | 13359 | |
| Date Made | 1911 | |
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| Description | Engraving: COUTURIER MODEL NEW PROPORTION MADE BY FRANCK HOLTON CHICAGO Biber: It seems a little unclear to me as to what distinguished the Clarke model from the plain new proportion model and the couturier model. Was it just bore size? I have seen ads showing Clarke model instruments both with and without shepherds crook. Surely Clarkes customization of the model was more than bore size. Pryorphone: The cornet stayed the same regardless of who was endorsing it (and whos name they put on it). There were times when'New Proportion' model was made with was no endorsing artist: 1907 to some of 1909 and some of 1912 to at least 1918. I know of 'Couturier Model' New Proportions with 0, 0-, 0½, and 1 bores, so it would be my assumption that this worked the same way when Clarke endorsed them. From 1918 on, the cornet was known as the 'Holton-Clarke Model' I have not tracked anything beyond Chicago, so I can not tell you any more than that. OLDLOU: I have two Holton Clarke Model cornets from about the same era. One is a shepherds crook type, which is appreciably shorter than the other, which is a typical extended cornet design. this just might answer the question per the Holton Clarke or Couturier, or, New Proportion short cornets. One of the major differences that I have noted in these two old horns is that the shepherds crook model will not fit into the original factory case for the non s c design. A minor difference is that the shepherds crook model will accept a modern Bach type cornet mouthpiece shank, whereas, the non s c horn has a much smaller diameter i.d. in the receiver. Biber: as the New Proportion design or its other incarnations (Clarke, Couturier) ever offered as a trumpet or trumpet-shank instrument? the reason I ask is that I just saw a publicity photo of the fortmer child prodigy trumpet soloist Edna White. the photo was easily from the 1940s (eitherway considerably after her switch from cornet to trumpet) and showed her holding what I am almost 100% sure is a Holton-Clarke cornet. Kenton: The Couturier line had a trumpet. Though it is really pushing it to call it a trumpet. i.e. a trumpet is supposed to be cylindrical until it goes into the bell branch. Course, no modern trumpets do fit this description. But the Couturier model took this to an extreme. It took a trumpet shank mouthpiece but was conical throughout. I would be surprised if Clarke endorsed a trumpet. He was very vocal in opposition to the trumpet over the cornet. | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-13359.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 808 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Ideal | |
| Serial# | 120750 | |
| Date Made | 1937 | |
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| Description | bell4 1/2 in Bore .457 Engraving: Holton Ideal Made by Holton Elkhorn Wi. The Ideal has the same unique wrap used by Holton on several of their cornets, such as the Military Model, Model 25, Herbert Clarke, etc.. The lack of a cross brace from the leadtube to the belltube and the pictured cornet mouthpiece all indicate that this is a cornet. I personally think that the owner made the very common mistake of calling his extended cornet a trumpet. The added loop in the leadpipe even has its own spit valve, indicating that this extra loop was added by holton to arrive at the length of tubing needed for proper intonation. I own a silver plated Clarke model which, other than for the finish is identical in appearance to the Ideal. Mine is definately a cornet, and, I love its sweet, dark cornet tone | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-trumpet-120750.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 776 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Revelation | |
| Serial# | 29923 | |
| Date Made | 1915 | |
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| Description | Dngraved: Made by Frank Holton, Chicago Stamped on center valve casing: Union Label MPBP B&SW inside an insignia,Frank Holton and Co. Chicago Comes with various slides (4 of these) as well as a lead pipe insert and another small brass fitting to go over the lead pipe | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/White/King-cornet-29923.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 688 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Revelation | |
| Serial# | 29376 | |
| Date Made | 1914 | |
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| Description | 'This is the classic long cornet favored in the 1920s by jazz musicians who wanted a brighter tone than the cornet but also the cornet’s warmth.' | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-29376.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 225 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Couturier | |
| Serial# | 11208 | |
| Date Made | 1910 | |
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| Description | Another on eBay with serial# 10051 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-11208.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 224 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | 25 | |
| Serial# | 1449XX | |
| Date Made | 1941 | |
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| Description | Bell engraving: HOLTON / ELKHORN, WIS / USA / 25 / U.S.. Valve FRANK HOLTON & CO / ELKHORN, WIS. /1449xx Image used by permission of www.Horncollector.com | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-Cornet-1449xx.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 222 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | H.L. Clarke | |
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| Date Made | 1932 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-Clarke.jpg[/img] |
| ID | 28 | |
| Instrument | Cornet | |
| Maker | Holton | |
| Model | Couturier | |
| Serial# | 11208 | |
| Date Made | 1910 | |
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| Comment | To use picture in a post, paste this line: | [img]http://www.horn-u-copia.net/instruments/Holton/Holton-cornet-11208.jpg[/img] |